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Deliberations from Psalm 119

Without hesitation we joyfully affirm that it is God’s Word which “is a lamp to our feet, and a light to our path” and like the Psalmist we “have taken The Lord’s testimonies as an inheritance forever, for they are the rejoicing of our heart”. Ps.119:105, 111. What a wonderful picture, an enlightened walk of service with the accompanying heart of joy, and all through the instrumentality of God’s wonderful book, the Bible.

In the matter of the paths of marriage and especially polygynous marriage, the Lord’s testimonies will also bring enlightenment and rejoicing in our hearts. That is, if we have studied the Lord’s testimonies about marriage and especially polygynous marriage. How much do we know about polygyny from God’s Word? If we only know jumbled bits and pieces then we are not ready to defend this truth or consider living it.

Remember the techniques used when Eve was seduced by the enemy? He questioned with some surprise the Words of the Lord when he asked her;
….. And he said to the woman, Is it so that God has said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Gen 3:1

Notice the cunningly convenient exclusion (freely), inclusion (not) and altering (you shall not) of the words so as to present the Lord’s liberality as a prohibition. Our Lord actually said this;
And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, You may freely eat of every tree in the garden, but you shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. Gen 2:16-17

The Serpent jumbled God’s words to present them in a negative suppressive tone and why was it that Eve stumbled at God’s Words and opened the door for Satan to attack Adam? Eve followed the enemy’s pattern. She jumbled and stumbled at the Words of the Lord and responded thus to the enemy’s seditious question;
And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, You sh…


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Christ’s Sacrifice, hidden in the very word "Torah"

Christ’s Sacrifice, hidden in the very word "Torah"

Mark Harpt

The word "torah" or "law" (Strong’s #8451) refers to the Old Testament, and can specifically refer to the first five books written by Moses. One of the most enlightening events of a Christian’s life is the moment he or she discovers that Jesus Christ is interwoven into the entire Old Testament. It is said that Jesus can be found on every page of the Old Testament. Well He can also be found before you even open the book!


The Hebrew word "towrah" is translated "law" or "Torah" in the English language. Much is lost in the translation, as they say. To understand what is lost, we must first realize that each character of the Hebrew language has a meaning. The word "Torah" is split up by character (Hebrew is read right to left) as follows:

Tav) Literal Meaning: a sign, a cross Symbolic Meaning: a covenant, to seal
(Vav) Literal Meaning: nail Symbolic Meaning: "and", to add, to secure
(Reysh) Literal Meaning: head Symbolic Meaning: person, the head, the highest
(Hey) Literal Meaning: window, fence Symbolic Meaning: "the", to reveal

If the meanings of each letter in the word "Torah" are combined to make a sentence, an amazing truth is revealed:
Tav + Vav + Reysh + Hey = a cross, nail, the head, window
"Head" means "the highest" as in "the head of the household."
"Window" means "to see clearly" or "to reveal" as in "a window to your soul."

So, the combined meaning of the letters of the Hebrew word "Torah" are:

[To] a cross, [is] nail[ed], the highest, is revealed [in the Torah].
The Torah reveals the King of Kings, nailed to a cross.

Or if you want to keep the literal "head" for Reysh, you get:

Nailed to a cross, at his head, it is revealed
Matthew 27:37, "Above his head they placed the written charge against him: THIS IS JESUS, T…


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Titus 2

But as for you (Titus, pastors):

  • communicate the behavior that goes with sound teaching

Older men are to be:

  1. temperate
  2. dignified
  3. self-controlled
  4. sound in faith
  5. sound in love
  6. sound in endurance

Older women, likewise, are to:

  1. exhibit behavior fitting for those who are holy
  2. not slandering
  3. not slaves to excessive drinking
  4. teach what is good

Meaning of the word "train" in the following:

the NET Bible note on this word wrote:This verb, σωφρονίζω (swfronizw), denotes teaching in the sense of bringing people to their senses, showing what sound thinking is.

Thus, the opposite of these things is not sound thinking and those that don’t do them are out of their senses.

In this way they will:

  1. train the younger women to love their husbands
  2. train the younger women to love their children
  3. train the younger women to be self-controlled
  4. train the younger women to be pure
  5. train the younger women to fulfill their duties at home
    • oikouros
      Strongs #3626
      • Definition
        1. caring for the house, working at home
        2. the (watch or) keeper of the house
        3. keeping at home and taking care of household affairs
        4. a domestic
        • Meaning
          1. train the younger women to care for the house and work at home
          2. train the younger women to be keepers of their house
          3. train the younger women to keep at home and take care of household affairs
          4. train the younger women to be domestics
      • train the younger women to be kind
      • train the younger women to be subject to their own husbands
        • hupotasso
          Strongs #5293
          • Definition
            1. to arrange under, to subordinate
            2. to subject, put in subjection
            3. to subject one’s self, obey
            4. to submit to one’s control
            5. to yield to one’s admonition or advice
            6. to obey, be subject
            7. A Greek military term meaning "to arrange [troop divisions] in a military fashion under the command of a leader."
            8. In non-military use, it was: "a voluntary attitude of giving in, cooperating, assuming responsibility, and carrying a burden."
            • Meaning
              1. train the younger women to arrange themselves under and be subordinate to their own husbands
              2. train the younger women to put themselves


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          Can We Scientifically Measure a Man’s Spiritual Maturity By

          measuring his time that he thinks about sex and the time that he thinks about Christ, His Word, and/or fulfilling Christ’s Great Commission? It may be possible.

          Different studies have told us different things about a man’s sex drive. Some more accurate than others and some not accurate at all. In any case, for example:

          The Kinsey Institute at Indiana University suggests that 54 per cent of men think about sex at least every day, 43 per cent think about it a few times a week or month, and 4 per cent once a month or less. All men are different, though; some, Waterman says, will think about sex many times daily

          I have to ponder, what would it mean for the spiritual life of a man, his family, his spiritual family (church), and his community if he were to think about Christ and his command to fulfill the Great Commission in all of his spheres of life as much as he did about sexual fulfillment? What would it mean if a man were as consumed for the goal of making disciples as he was about sexual fulfillment (although creating children would indeed be one way to raise up disciples)? Would this show us for our own personal hearts how in love we are with Christ? I lean towards the idea that it may the more I think about it. If our drive for Christ, his word, and the Great Commission was near or equal or even above our sexual drives it seems like we would have a guage to go by. Of course, this is not in any way to suggest the sexual drive is unholy. It certainly is a holy desire, but just one holy desire among many. Or at least our goal is for it to be in balance to other desires that we have.

          Regardless of if it can be "scientifically measured" I can not help but to think that if 54% of men thought about Christ, his Word, and a way to fulfill the Great Commission once every day, and 43% thought about Christ, his Word, and a way to fulfill it a few times a week that we might alter the life of our family, church, and community for the good. Surely it could not hurt and c…


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          If the one wife verses really applied to everyone…..

          1 timothy 3:2 and 3:12 and titus 1:6 make references to certain Church job/leadership positions and one wife

          Someone has been trying to tell me that these verses mean all people should not have more than one wife

          I have been telling that person it means some people at best, that is it only applies to people in the listed Church positions that go with those verses (deacons, elders, bishops or whatever it is translated to) and that it does not apply to other people.

          I asked something like what if two would be okay because it is at least one?

          That person told me something like, "no one can only mean one."

          I responded something like if one only means one and it applies to all men then it is a sin for anyone even Jesus or Paul to be unmarried at any moment in time because 0 wives is a different number of wives than one. But if you tell me it does not apply to all people so that some can be single then you can not say that other people (than deacons, etc) could not have another number of wives like two based on those verses. And if one does not mean one than you can not restrict the number of wives with these verses.

          So in summary no matter what they can not use these verses to make a reasonable argument against polygyny, if it applies to everyone all unmarried people are sinners and if it does not apply to everyone they have no argument against polygyny for other people.

          They tried to claim that the word "but" could possibly mean no more than one. The word "but" appears in NIV but the word "but" does not appear in King James which is a word for word translation.

          However they did say something like they will have to do more research on the topic.


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