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When will they learn…

Polygyny has been around since the dawn of time, and HAS NOT gone away. Societies and governments have attempted to legislate it out of existence, but all they have managed to accomplish is to force the practice underground…I believe that stories like these will soon be considered a blot on our history and the legal system used to try to suppress the natural law and right of marriage…

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Hi from Central California

Hi, everybody.

I am a self-employed attorney. I’m 53 years old and in good health.

I’m married with one adult child and another teenager.

My wife and I live mostly apart for a number of reasons. She’s very unreceptive to the idea of plural marriage – to put in mildly.

I have been interested in Christian polygyny for a few years now.

I feel that it might be something God wants for me. I don’t know for sure but I’m open to the idea. I feel that I could take good care of, for example, a single mom and her children, and she could take care of me.

I was raised in a devout Roman Catholic home and so I grew up with believing that polygyny was about the biggest sin anybody could commit.

While I still have the greatest of respect for the Church and Holy Tradition, I really have been forced to confront the fact that monogamy isn’t biblical but is in fact a cultural artifact that stems from Roman law. St. Augustine, perhaps the most influential theologian ever in the Western Church, wrote in the 4th century on polygyny:

But here there is no ground for a criminal accusation: for a plurality of wives was no crime when it was the custom; and it is a crime now, because it is no longer the custom. There are sins against nature, and sins against custom, and sins against the laws. As regards nature, [Jacob] used the women not for sensual gratification, but for the procreation of children. For custom, this was the common practice at that time in those countries. And for the laws, no prohibition existed. The only reason of its being a crime now to do this, is because custom and the laws forbid it

In this passage St. Augustine states forthrightly that polygyny is biblical but that it’s not in keeping with Roman custom and so it would be a sin to break the peace of Roman law and custom when it is not necessary to do so. Elsewhere St. Augustine states that polygyny was necessary in biblical times but it’s not necessary in the late Roman empire so Christians shouldn’t give scandal un…

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Ecclesiastes 9:9 ???

I was reading some comments from an anti-polygyny person today and one verse he was using to suggest that polygyny was neither God’s will or ideal was, Ecclesiastes 9:9. Solomon uses the singular "wife" here, instead of "wives".

"Live joyfully with the wife whom you love all the days of your vain life which He has given you under the sun, all your days of vanity; for that is your portion in life, and in the labor which you perform under the sun."

My own "non-expert" opinion is that King Solomon seems very depressed here and while his statement may be a "true statement" in that it was recorded correctly…it isn’t a "Statement Of Truth", due to his mental state. In any case, I would certainly be interested in hearing what others have to say here, in regards to it’s effect on the validity of polygyny.

Blessings,
Fairlight

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Defining "Marriage"…

Throughout history the definition of "Marriage" has frequently included a man with more than one wife. Even when monogamy was instituted by law and/or culture in certain areas it was common for these "monogamous" men to have mistresses, which under different circumstances would have most certainly become their wives as well.

I just came across an interesting book by Edward Westermarck defining marriage in the 1922 edition of The History of Human Marriage on page 26 as:

"MARRIAGE is generally used as a term for a social institution. As such it may be defined as a relation of one or more men to one or more women which is recognized by custom or law and involves certain rights and duties both in the case of the parties entering the union and in the case of the children born of it."

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Josephus, late in the first century, states "for it is the ancient practice among us to have many wives at the same time." in "The Antiquities of the Jews" volume 17 chapter 1.

"it is" is present tense meaning that it was being currently practiced when Josephus wrote this late in the first century. "the ancient practice" indicates that it was nothing new and had been practiced throughout known history.

Along with other extra biblical evidence that polygyny was commonly practiced how is it that polygyny is thought of as anything but biblical?

Why is it that polygyny is not recognized as marriage based on the fact that it was the custom and part of the culture? Clearly without the interference of other cultures this would still be a common practice today and be considered a cultural norm. Is this not a valid argument for the legalization of polygyny?…

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When Was Polygyny Banned ?

Okay…I am a bit confused about when and how polygyny was banned. I had been told two years ago that it was the Catholic Church that banned the practice in order to appease Roman officials.
I was told today that it was the early church fathers (during the period between Jesus and the start of the Roman Catholic Church) that first came out against polygyny. I was also told that the letter allegedly written by the Pope who banned polygyny (that many people have quoted from) is in fact fraudulent.
Can anyone shed some light on this ?
Blessings,
Fairlight

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