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Imagine there were no commentators —– M D R

Didn’t one version of the John Lennon song Imagine contain a line: imagine there’s no commentaries on marriage and divorce? I dunno, maybe.

Just think for a moment where we’d be if there were not all these ideas connected to the passages that are usually refererred to as MDR or marriage divorce & remarriage.

There are so many little man made ideas that have been repeated so often that they seem almost a part of the biblical texts themselves. And to question them is tantamount to questioning the words of Christ.

But if you should feel so daring today, I invite you to step into the world of the iconoclast for a few moments. And let us examine but one of several of these concepts that may not actually be rooted in the teachings of Christ but rather within the imaginations of men.

The psalmist speaks praise for the blessed man that meditates upon God’s law day and night. Ps 1:2. With that in mind, I’ve looked at the four places in the gospels known as MDR and have a question regarding the notion of living in adultery.

To preface my question: We’ve heard the zealous preacher and his condemnation of those that live in adultery and the usual sequence of events that led up to this perpetual state. First there was what is known as an unscriptural divorce. What followed that was an unscriptural remarriage. And with both of those events accomplished, the man and woman are carrying on in adultery that does not end until they either divorce or sleep in separate beds.

Now when the proponent of this teaching is pressed for scriptural support of his hypothesis, he will inevitably point to the MDR passages. And he will offer his subtle paraphrased version of them as if they are written like this: Whososever has put away his wife and has married another doth commit adultery. But that is not the actual verse(s). It looks pretty close to what the MDR verses say but is in fact a revision. Lets look very closely at the verb tenses in the ACTUAL verses. Let us ask of t…

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Fornication vs. Adultery

The statement is often made that if a woman commits adultery, according to the scriptures, this is cause for a divorce. This statement would perhaps be followed by a quotation of Mathew 5:32.

To my understanding, this is an erroneous interpretation or misunderstanding of what the scriptures actually say. I may be wrong, but I doubt it. Follow me with this reasoning. Lets carefully examine what the text states.

"But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

Note carefully that the operative word here is fornication. According to the scriptures, a woman that is already married cannot commit fornication, any sexual impropriety on her part would be deemed as adultery. It is only a man whether married or unmarried that can commit fornication. The only woman that can commit fornication is an unmarried one.

So what Jesus was actually saying here is that if a man marries a woman, and on her wedding night was not found to be a virgin, then the husband would have reason to divorce her because she played the harlot in her fathers house.

Adultery therefore is not a valid reason or excuse that one can use to lawfully divorce his wife according to the scriptures. We are expected to be forgiving as Jesus forgives us of our sins. In this light, the Titus teaching of a bishop or deacon who is blameless and the husband of one (his first wife) makes more sense to me. For a spiritual leader to truly reflect Christ, he must still be married to his first wife regardless of how many wives he has, he must not be a divorcée, otherwise he would be proven to be a man with an unforgiving spirit, hence he would be unfit to lead a flock.

Lionking.

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Why is it adultery for a man to divorce his wife AND marry

I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
Mathew 19:9 NIV

1. This passage does not forbid polygamy
A man who marries another woman is NOT said to commit adultery. But a man who divorces his wife AND marries another woman is said to commit adultery.

2. If a man divorces his wife and marries another woman he has committed adultery
A man who divorces his wife and marries another woman is said to commit adultery (with the exception of marital unfaithfulness.) But he is allowed to marry more than one woman, so why is it adultery to marry an extra woman in the case of divorce?

3. It is not directly stated here to be considered adultery if he divorces his wife and does not marry another woman?
If divorce is the same as adultery than why is it not directly stated to be adultery unless the man both divorces his wife and marries another woman?

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Act vs. Intent

Can an evil intent corrupt the very act itself?

While having a lengthy discussion with a devout Christian today one of the topics we discussed was adultery. I brought up this passage:

Genesis 16:3 So, after Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her servant, and gave her to Abram her husband as a wife.

I then stated “If it is adultery for a man to take another woman to be his wife while he is still married, did Sarai tempt Abram to commit adultery, and did Abram willingly commit adultery? If so, why didn’t God address it like he did when David committed adultery?

I listened while he attempted to assemble an argument to explain away the situation I had just presented to him. He hummed and hawed and a few words stumbled out then he went into explaining that they were trying to fulfill God’s promise to Abraham, and all the Arabs from Ishmael were the result and that is why we have so many problems today, and that is why polygamy is bad. He failed to address the questions I posed, but I was actually pleasantly surprised with his response. He had posed an argument against polygamy that I had not come across yet and my thoughts were keen to address both the lack of an answer and refute the logic in his argument.

Since I was familiar with arguments concerning Lamech, I applied the same type of answer. I said “I’m glad you mentioned that. What we need to look at is the intention of Abram and Sarai. Their intention was to fulfill God’s promise without God. Now, does an errant intention corrupt an act? Is the act bad because it was used for the wrong reasons? If I was single and married a girl because her daddy was rich to get at his money would that then cause marriage in itself to be a bad institution? If Abram’s actions make polygamy bad or sinful does that then render other men like David, Gideon, and many others as bad or sinful men?

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